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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
Cc: brouer@redhat.com, bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	martin.lau@kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	alexandr.lobakin@intel.com, larysa.zaremba@intel.com,
	xdp-hints@xdp-project.net, anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com,
	yoong.siang.song@intel.com, boon.leong.ong@intel.com
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH bpf-next V1 1/7] xdp: bpf_xdp_metadata use EOPNOTSUPP for no driver support
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 19:42:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f42ff647-11b2-4f09-7652-ad85d35b5617@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZBTZ7J9B6yXNJO1m@google.com>


On 17/03/2023 22.21, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> On 03/17, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>> When driver doesn't implement a bpf_xdp_metadata kfunc the fallback
>> implementation returns EOPNOTSUPP, which indicate device driver doesn't
>> implement this kfunc.
> 
>> Currently many drivers also return EOPNOTSUPP when the hint isn't
>> available, which is inconsistent from an API point of view. Instead
>> change drivers to return ENODATA in these cases.
> 
>> There can be natural cases why a driver doesn't provide any hardware
>> info for a specific hint, even on a frame to frame basis (e.g. PTP).
>> Lets keep these cases as separate return codes.
> 
>> When describing the return values, adjust the function kernel-doc layout
>> to get proper rendering for the return values.
> 
>> Signed-off-by: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
> 
> I don't remember whether the previous discussion ended in something?
> IIRC Martin was preferring to use xdp-features for this instead?
> 

IIRC Martin asked for a second vote/opinion to settle the vote.
The xdp-features use is orthogonal and this patch does not prohibit the
later implementation of xdp-features, to detect if driver doesn't
implement kfuncs via using global vars.  Not applying this patch leaves
the API in an strange inconsistent state, because of an argument that in
the *future* we can use xdp-features to solve *one* of the discussed
use-cases for another return code.
I argued for a practical PTP use-case where not all frames contain the
PTP timestamp.  This patch solve this use-case *now*, so I don't see why
we should stall solving this, because of a "future" feature we might
never get around to implement, which require the user to use global vars.


> Personally I'm fine with having this convention, but I'm not sure how well
> we'll be able to enforce them. (In general, I'm not a fan of userspace
> changing it's behavior based on errno. If it's mostly for
> debugging/development - seems ok)
>

We enforce the API by documenting the return behavior, like below.  If a 
driver violate this, then we will fix the driver code with a fixes tag.

My ask is simply let not have ambiguous return codes.


>> ---
>>   Documentation/networking/xdp-rx-metadata.rst     |    7 +++++--
>>   drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlx4/en_rx.c       |    4 ++--
>>   drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlx5/core/en/xdp.c |    4 ++--
>>   drivers/net/veth.c                               |    4 ++--
>>   net/core/xdp.c                                   |   10 ++++++++--
>>   5 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
> 
[...]
>> diff --git a/net/core/xdp.c b/net/core/xdp.c
>> index 8d3ad315f18d..7133017bcd74 100644
>> --- a/net/core/xdp.c
>> +++ b/net/core/xdp.c
>> @@ -705,7 +705,10 @@ __diag_ignore_all("-Wmissing-prototypes",
>>    * @ctx: XDP context pointer.
>>    * @timestamp: Return value pointer.
>>    *
>> - * Returns 0 on success or ``-errno`` on error.
>> + * Return:
>> + * * Returns 0 on success or ``-errno`` on error.
>> + * * ``-EOPNOTSUPP`` : means device driver does not implement kfunc
>> + * * ``-ENODATA``    : means no RX-timestamp available for this frame
>>    */
>>   __bpf_kfunc int bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_timestamp(const struct xdp_md 
>> *ctx, u64 *timestamp)
>>   {
>> @@ -717,7 +720,10 @@ __bpf_kfunc int 
>> bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_timestamp(const struct xdp_md *ctx, u64 *tim
>>    * @ctx: XDP context pointer.
>>    * @hash: Return value pointer.
>>    *
>> - * Returns 0 on success or ``-errno`` on error.
>> + * Return:
>> + * * Returns 0 on success or ``-errno`` on error.
>> + * * ``-EOPNOTSUPP`` : means device driver doesn't implement kfunc
>> + * * ``-ENODATA``    : means no RX-hash available for this frame
>>    */
>>   __bpf_kfunc int bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_hash(const struct xdp_md *ctx, 
>> u32 *hash)
>>   {
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-20 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-17 14:33 [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next V1 0/7] XDP-hints kfuncs for Intel driver igc Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-17 14:33 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next V1 1/7] xdp: bpf_xdp_metadata use EOPNOTSUPP for no driver support Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-17 21:21   ` [xdp-hints] " Stanislav Fomichev
2023-03-20 18:42     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2023-03-21 12:24       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-03-21 13:48         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-17 14:33 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next V1 2/7] igc: enable and fix RX hash usage by netstack Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-17 14:33 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next V1 3/7] selftests/bpf: xdp_hw_metadata track more timestamps Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-17 21:09   ` [xdp-hints] " Stanislav Fomichev
2023-03-21 13:29     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-17 14:33 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next V1 4/7] selftests/bpf: xdp_hw_metadata RX hash return code info Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-17 21:13   ` [xdp-hints] " Stanislav Fomichev
2023-03-21 13:32     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-21 18:45       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-03-22 15:57         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-17 14:33 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next V1 5/7] igc: add igc_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff in driver Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-17 14:33 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next V1 6/7] igc: add XDP hints kfuncs for RX timestamp Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-03-17 14:33 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next V1 7/7] igc: add XDP hints kfuncs for RX hash Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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