From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Cc: brouer@redhat.com, Larysa Zaremba <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
Tony Nguyen <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com>,
Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@redhat.com>,
xdp-hints@xdp-project.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 14/15] net, xdp: allow metadata > 32
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 17:28:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d53f0150-d74b-7cf6-8fe7-324131b43982@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fed6ef09-0f5b-8c3d-0484-bb0995d09282@redhat.com>
From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 13:41:43 +0200
>
>
> On 19/05/2023 18.35, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>> From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
>> Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 17:35:27 +0200
[...]
> Not talking about your changes (in this patch).
>
> I'm realizing that SKBs using metadata area will have a performance hit
> due to accessing another cacheline (the meta_len in skb_shared_info).
>
> IIRC Daniel complained about this performance hit (in the past), I guess
> this explains it. IIRC Cilium changed to use percpu variables/datastore
> to workaround this.
Why should we compare metadata of skbs on GRO anyway? I was disabling it
the old hints series (conditionally, if driver asks), moreover...
...if metadata contains full checksum, GRO will be broken completely due
to this comparison (or any other frame-unique fields. VLAN tags and
hashes are okay).
>
>
>> The whole xdp_metalen_invalid() gets expanded into:
>>
>> return (metalen % 4) || metalen > 255;
>>
>> at compile-time. All those typeof shenanigans are only to not open-code
>> meta_len's type/size/max.
>>
>>>
>>> But only use for SKBs that gets created from xdp with metadata, right?
>>>
>
> Normal netstack processing actually access this skb_shinfo->meta_len in
> gro_list_prepare(). As the caller dev_gro_receive() later access other
> memory in skb_shared_info, then the GRO code path already takes this hit
> to begin with.
You access skb_shinfo() often even before running XDP program, for
example, when a frame is multi-buffer. Plus HW timestamps are also
there, and so on.
>
> --Jesper
>
Thanks,
Olek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-22 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-12 15:25 [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 00/15] new kfunc XDP hints and ice implementation Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:25 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 01/15] ice: make RX hash reading code more reusable Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-19 16:46 ` [xdp-hints] " Alexander Lobakin
2023-05-22 15:03 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-22 15:36 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-05-12 15:25 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 02/15] ice: make RX HW timestamp " Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-19 16:52 ` [xdp-hints] " Alexander Lobakin
2023-05-22 15:07 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:25 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 03/15] ice: make RX checksum checking " Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-22 15:51 ` [xdp-hints] " Alexander Lobakin
2023-05-22 16:05 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:25 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 04/15] ice: Make ptype internal to descriptor info processing Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:25 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 05/15] ice: Introduce ice_xdp_buff Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-22 16:46 ` [xdp-hints] " Alexander Lobakin
2023-05-23 8:02 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-25 11:02 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-05-12 15:25 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 06/15] ice: Support HW timestamp hint Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 18:19 ` [xdp-hints] " Stanislav Fomichev
2023-05-16 16:17 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-05-12 15:25 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 07/15] ice: Support RX hash XDP hint Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 18:22 ` [xdp-hints] " Stanislav Fomichev
2023-05-15 13:46 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:26 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 08/15] ice: Support XDP hints in AF_XDP ZC mode Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:26 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 09/15] xdp: Add VLAN tag hint Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 18:28 ` [xdp-hints] " Stanislav Fomichev
2023-05-15 15:36 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-05-15 16:09 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-22 8:37 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-05-22 15:48 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-23 10:16 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-05-23 17:35 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:26 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 10/15] ice: Implement " Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 18:31 ` [xdp-hints] " Stanislav Fomichev
2023-05-15 13:41 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-15 15:07 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-05-15 15:45 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:26 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 11/15] xdp: Add checksum level hint Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 18:34 ` [xdp-hints] " Stanislav Fomichev
2023-05-15 13:49 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:26 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 12/15] ice: Implement " Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:26 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 13/15] selftests/bpf: Allow VLAN packets in xdp_hw_metadata Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 18:33 ` [xdp-hints] " Stanislav Fomichev
2023-05-15 14:05 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 15:26 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 14/15] net, xdp: allow metadata > 32 Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-15 16:17 ` [xdp-hints] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-05-15 17:08 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-16 12:37 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-05-16 15:35 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-05-19 16:35 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-05-22 11:41 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-05-22 15:28 ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]
2023-05-22 15:55 ` Daniel Borkmann
2023-05-12 15:26 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RESEND bpf-next 15/15] selftests/bpf: Add flags and new hints to xdp_hw_metadata Larysa Zaremba
2023-05-12 18:37 ` [xdp-hints] " Stanislav Fomichev
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