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From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: "Alexander Lobakin" <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	"Daniel Xu" <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>,
	"Alexander Lobakin" <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Larysa Zaremba" <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>,
	"Michal Swiatkowski" <michal.swiatkowski@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Magnus Karlsson" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	"Maciej Fijalkowski" <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	"Jonathan Lemon" <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
	"Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Yajun Deng" <yajun.deng@linux.dev>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemb@google.com>,
	"bpf@vger.kernel.org" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	xdp-hints@xdp-project.net
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 32/52] bpf, cpumap: switch to GRO from netif_receive_skb_list()
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 10:02:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZrcegfBkreaOmRgV@lore-rh-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8734ndq0cd.fsf@toke.dk>

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On Aug 09, Toke wrote:
> Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com> writes:
> 
> > From: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com>
> > Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 14:45:33 +0200
> >
> >> Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com> writes:
> >> 
> >>> From: Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>
> >>> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2024 16:52:51 -0400
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
> >>>>> From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com>
> >>>>> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 06:54:06 +0200
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Alexander,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cpumap has its own BH context based on kthread. It has a sane batch
> >>>>>>>> size of 8 frames per one cycle.
> >>>>>>>> GRO can be used on its own, adjust cpumap calls to the
> >>>>>>>> upper stack to use GRO API instead of netif_receive_skb_list() which
> >>>>>>>> processes skbs by batches, but doesn't involve GRO layer at all.
> >>>>>>>> It is most beneficial when a NIC which frame come from is XDP
> >>>>>>>> generic metadata-enabled, but in plenty of tests GRO performs better
> >>>>>>>> than listed receiving even given that it has to calculate full frame
> >>>>>>>> checksums on CPU.
> >>>>>>>> As GRO passes the skbs to the upper stack in the batches of
> >>>>>>>> @gro_normal_batch, i.e. 8 by default, and @skb->dev point to the
> >>>>>>>> device where the frame comes from, it is enough to disable GRO
> >>>>>>>> netdev feature on it to completely restore the original behaviour:
> >>>>>>>> untouched frames will be being bulked and passed to the upper stack
> >>>>>>>> by 8, as it was with netif_receive_skb_list().
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>  kernel/bpf/cpumap.c | 43 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> >>>>>>>>  1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AFAICT the cpumap + GRO is a good standalone improvement. I think
> >>>>>>> cpumap is still missing this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only concern for having GRO in cpumap without metadata from the NIC
> >>>>> descriptor was that when the checksum status is missing, GRO calculates
> >>>>> the checksum on CPU, which is not really fast.
> >>>>> But I remember sometimes GRO was faster despite that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Good to know, thanks. IIUC some kind of XDP hint support landed already?
> >>>>
> >>>> My use case could also use HW RSS hash to avoid a rehash in XDP prog.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, for now it's impossible to get HW metadata such as RSS
> >>> hash and checksum status in cpumap. They're implemented via kfuncs
> >>> specific to a particular netdevice and this info is available only when
> >>> running XDP prog.
> >>>
> >>> But I think one solution could be:
> >>>
> >>> 1. We create some generic structure for cpumap, like
> >>>
> >>> struct cpumap_meta {
> >>> 	u32 magic;
> >>> 	u32 hash;
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> 2. We add such check in the cpumap code
> >>>
> >>> 	if (xdpf->metalen == sizeof(struct cpumap_meta) &&
> >>> 	    <here we check magic>)
> >>> 		skb->hash = meta->hash;
> >>>
> >>> 3. In XDP prog, you call Rx hints kfuncs when they're available, obtain
> >>> RSS hash and then put it in the struct cpumap_meta as XDP frame metadata.
> >> 
> >> Yes, except don't make this cpumap-specific, make it generic for kernel
> >> consumption of the metadata. That way it doesn't even have to be stored
> >> in the xdp metadata area, it can be anywhere we want (and hence not
> >> subject to ABI issues), and we can use it for skb creation after
> >> redirect in other places than cpumap as well (say, on veth devices).
> >> 
> >> So it'll be:
> >> 
> >> struct kernel_meta {
> >> 	u32 hash;
> >> 	u32 timestamp;
> >>         ...etc
> >> }
> >> 
> >> and a kfunc:
> >> 
> >> void store_xdp_kernel_meta(struct kernel meta *meta);
> >> 
> >> which the XDP program can call to populate the metadata area.
> >
> > Hmm, nice!
> >
> > But where to store this info in case of cpumap if not in xdp->data_meta?
> > When you convert XDP frames to skbs in the cpumap code, you only have
> > &xdp_frame and that's it. XDP prog was already run earlier from the
> > driver code at that point.
> 
> Well, we could put it in skb_shared_info? IIRC, some of the metadata
> (timestamps?) end up there when building an skb anyway, so we won't even
> have to copy it around...

Before vacation I started looking into it a bit, I will resume this work in one
week or so.

Regards,
Lorenzo

> 
> -Toke
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-10  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-28 19:47 [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 00/52] bpf, xdp: introduce and use Generic Hints/metadata Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 01/52] libbpf: factor out BTF loading from load_module_btfs() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 02/52] libbpf: try to load vmlinux BTF from the kernel first Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 03/52] libbpf: add function to get the pair BTF ID + type ID for a given type Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 04/52] libbpf: patch module BTF ID into BPF insns Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 05/52] net, xdp: decouple XDP code from the core networking code Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 06/52] bpf: pass a pointer to union bpf_attr to bpf_link_ops::update_prog() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 07/52] net, xdp: remove redundant arguments from dev_xdp_{at,de}tach_link() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 08/52] net, xdp: factor out XDP install arguments to a separate structure Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 09/52] net, xdp: add ability to specify BTF ID for XDP metadata Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 10/52] net, xdp: add ability to specify frame size threshold " Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 11/52] libbpf: factor out __bpf_set_link_xdp_fd_replace() args into a struct Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 12/52] libbpf: add ability to set the BTF/type ID on setting XDP prog Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 13/52] libbpf: add ability to set the meta threshold " Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 14/52] libbpf: pass &bpf_link_create_opts directly to bpf_program__attach_fd() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 15/52] libbpf: add bpf_program__attach_xdp_opts() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 16/52] selftests/bpf: expand xdp_link to check that setting meta opts works Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 17/52] samples/bpf: pass a struct to sample_install_xdp() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 18/52] samples/bpf: add ability to specify metadata threshold Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 19/52] stddef: make __struct_group() UAPI C++-friendly Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 20/52] net, xdp: move XDP metadata helpers into new xdp_meta.h Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 21/52] net, xdp: allow metadata > 32 Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 22/52] net, skbuff: add ability to skip skb metadata comparison Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 23/52] net, skbuff: constify the @skb argument of skb_hwtstamps() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 24/52] bpf, xdp: declare generic XDP metadata structure Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 25/52] net, xdp: add basic generic metadata accessors Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 26/52] bpf, btf: add a pair of function to work with the BTF ID + type ID pair Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 27/52] net, xdp: add &sk_buff <-> &xdp_meta_generic converters Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 28/52] net, xdp: prefetch data a bit when building an skb from an &xdp_frame Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 29/52] net, xdp: try to fill skb fields when converting " Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 30/52] net, gro: decouple GRO from the NAPI layer Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 31/52] net, gro: expose some GRO API to use outside of NAPI Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 32/52] bpf, cpumap: switch to GRO from netif_receive_skb_list() Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-07 20:38   ` [xdp-hints] " Daniel Xu
2024-08-08  4:54     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-08 11:57       ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-08 17:22         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-08 20:52         ` Daniel Xu
2024-08-09 10:02           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-08-09 12:20           ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-09 12:45             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-08-09 12:56               ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-09 13:42                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-08-10  0:54                   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-08-10  8:02                   ` Lorenzo Bianconi [this message]
2024-08-13  1:33             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13  9:51               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-08-10  8:00         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-13 14:09         ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-13 14:54           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-08-13 15:57             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-08-19 14:50               ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-21  0:29                 ` Daniel Xu
2024-08-21 13:16                   ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-21 16:36                     ` Daniel Xu
2024-08-13 16:14           ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-13 16:27           ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-13 16:31             ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-08 20:44       ` Daniel Xu
2024-08-09  9:32         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 33/52] bpf, cpumap: add option to set a timeout for deferred flush Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 34/52] samples/bpf: add 'timeout' option to xdp_redirect_cpu Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 35/52] net, skbuff: introduce napi_skb_cache_get_bulk() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 36/52] bpf, cpumap: switch to napi_skb_cache_get_bulk() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 37/52] rcupdate: fix access helpers for incomplete struct pointers on GCC < 10 Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 38/52] net, xdp: remove unused xdp_attachment_info::flags Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 39/52] net, xdp: make &xdp_attachment_info a bit more useful in drivers Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 40/52] net, xdp: add an RCU version of xdp_attachment_setup() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 41/52] net, xdp: replace net_device::xdp_prog pointer with &xdp_attachment_info Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 42/52] net, xdp: shortcut skb->dev in bpf_prog_run_generic_xdp() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 43/52] net, xdp: build XDP generic metadata on Generic (skb) XDP path Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 44/52] net, ice: allow XDP prog hot-swapping Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 45/52] net, ice: consolidate all skb fields processing Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 46/52] net, ice: use an onstack &xdp_meta_generic_rx to store HW frame info Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 47/52] net, ice: build XDP generic metadata Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 48/52] libbpf: compress Endianness ops with a macro Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 49/52] libbpf: add LE <--> CPU conversion helpers Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 50/52] libbpf: introduce a couple memory access helpers Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 51/52] selftests/bpf: fix using test_xdp_meta BPF prog via skeleton infra Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 52/52] selftests/bpf: add XDP Generic Hints selftest Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-29  6:15 ` [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 00/52] bpf, xdp: introduce and use Generic Hints/metadata John Fastabend
2022-06-29 13:43   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-04 15:44     ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-07-04 17:13       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-07-05 14:38         ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-07-05 19:08           ` Daniel Borkmann
2022-07-04 17:14       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-05 15:41         ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-07-05 18:51           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-06 13:50             ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-07-06 23:22               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-07 11:41                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-07-12 10:33                 ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-07-12 14:14                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-07-15 11:11                     ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-06-29 17:56   ` Zvi Effron
2022-06-30  7:39     ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-07-04 15:31   ` Alexander Lobakin

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