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From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, brouer@redhat.com, ast@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org, martin.lau@linux.dev,
	song@kernel.org, yhs@fb.com, john.fastabend@gmail.com,
	kpsingh@kernel.org, haoluo@google.com, jolsa@kernel.org,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com>,
	Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@redhat.com>,
	xdp-hints@xdp-project.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH bpf-next v7 10/17] veth: Support RX XDP metadata
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:33:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKH8qBszqz7Qi=E0=gsF0KDHqw4+QEWYyQvqRyS2_E_UsjNKvw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5ce7ac4-7901-6146-2c2a-5b4958c14e11@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 8:21 AM Jesper Dangaard Brouer
<jbrouer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 12/01/2023 01.32, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> > The goal is to enable end-to-end testing of the metadata for AF_XDP.
>
> For me the goal with veth goes beyond *testing*.
>
> This patch ignores the xdp_frame case.  I'm not blocking this patch, but
> I'm saying we need to make sure there is a way forward for accessing
> XDP-hints when handling redirected xdp_frame's.

Sure, let's work towards getting that other part addressed!

> I have two use-cases we should cover (as future work).
>
> (#1) We have customers that want to redirect from physical NIC hardware
> into containers, and then have the veth XDP-prog (selectively) redirect
> into an AF_XDP socket (when matching fastpath packets).  Here they
> (minimum) want access to the XDP hint info on HW checksum.
>
> (#2) Both veth and cpumap can create SKBs based on xdp_frame's.  Here it
> is essential to get HW checksum and HW hash when creating these SKBs
> (else netstack have to do expensive csum calc and parsing in
> flow-dissector).

From my PoW, I'd probably have to look into the TX side first (tx
timestamp) before looking into xdp->skb path. So if somebody on your
side has cycles, feel free to drive this effort. I'm happy to provide
reviews/comments/etc. I think we've discussed in the past that this
will most likely look like another set of "export" kfuncs?

We can start with extending new
Documentation/networking/xdp-rx-metadata.rst with a high-level design.

> > Cc: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
> > Cc: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>
> > Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> > Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
> > Cc: Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>
> > Cc: Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@redhat.com>
> > Cc: xdp-hints@xdp-project.net
> > Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
> > ---
> >   drivers/net/veth.c | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >   1 file changed, 31 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/net/veth.c b/drivers/net/veth.c
> > index 70f50602287a..ba3e05832843 100644
> > --- a/drivers/net/veth.c
> > +++ b/drivers/net/veth.c
> > @@ -118,6 +118,7 @@ static struct {
> >
> >   struct veth_xdp_buff {
> >       struct xdp_buff xdp;
> > +     struct sk_buff *skb;
> >   };
> >
> >   static int veth_get_link_ksettings(struct net_device *dev,
> > @@ -602,6 +603,7 @@ static struct xdp_frame *veth_xdp_rcv_one(struct veth_rq *rq,
> >
> >               xdp_convert_frame_to_buff(frame, xdp);
> >               xdp->rxq = &rq->xdp_rxq;
> > +             vxbuf.skb = NULL;
> >
> >               act = bpf_prog_run_xdp(xdp_prog, xdp);
> >
> > @@ -823,6 +825,7 @@ static struct sk_buff *veth_xdp_rcv_skb(struct veth_rq *rq,
> >       __skb_push(skb, skb->data - skb_mac_header(skb));
> >       if (veth_convert_skb_to_xdp_buff(rq, xdp, &skb))
> >               goto drop;
> > +     vxbuf.skb = skb;
> >
> >       orig_data = xdp->data;
> >       orig_data_end = xdp->data_end;
> > @@ -1602,6 +1605,28 @@ static int veth_xdp(struct net_device *dev, struct netdev_bpf *xdp)
> >       }
> >   }
> >
> > +static int veth_xdp_rx_timestamp(const struct xdp_md *ctx, u64 *timestamp)
> > +{
> > +     struct veth_xdp_buff *_ctx = (void *)ctx;
> > +
> > +     if (!_ctx->skb)
> > +             return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > +
> > +     *timestamp = skb_hwtstamps(_ctx->skb)->hwtstamp;
>
> The SKB stores this skb_hwtstamps() in skb_shared_info memory area.
> This memory area is actually also available to xdp_frames.  Thus, we
> could store the HW rx_timestamp in same location for redirected
> xdp_frames.  This could make code path sharing possible between SKB vs
> xdp_frame in veth.
>
> This would also make it fast to "transfer" HW rx_timestamp when creating
> an SKB from an xdp_frame, as data is already written in the correct place.
>
> Performance wise the down-side is that skb_shared_info memory area is in
> a separate cacheline.  Thus, when no HW rx_timestamp is available, then
> it is very expensive for a veth XDP bpf-prog to access this, just to get
> a zero back.  Having an xdp_frame->flags bit that knows if HW
> rx_timestamp have been stored, can mitigate this.

That's one way to do it; although I'm not sure about the cases which
don't use xdp_frame and use stack-allocated xdp_buff.

> > +     return 0;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static int veth_xdp_rx_hash(const struct xdp_md *ctx, u32 *hash)
> > +{
> > +     struct veth_xdp_buff *_ctx = (void *)ctx;
> > +
> > +     if (!_ctx->skb)
> > +             return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>
> For xdp_frame case, I'm considering simply storing the u32 RX-hash in
> struct xdp_frame.  This makes it easy to extract for xdp_frame to SKB
> create use-case.
>
> As have been mentioned before, the SKB also requires knowing the RSS
> hash-type.  This HW hash-type actually contains a lot of information,
> that today is lost when reduced to the SKB hash-type.  Due to
> standardization from Microsoft, most HW provide info on (L3) IPv4 or
> IPv6, and on (L4) TCP or UDP (and often SCTP).  Often hardware
> descriptor also provide info on the header length.  Future work in this
> area is exciting as we can speedup parsing of packets in XDP, if we can
> get are more detailed HW info on hash "packet-type".

Something like the version we've discussed a while back [0]?
Seems workable overall if we remove it from the UAPI? (not everyone
was happy about UAPI parts IIRC)

0: https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20221115030210.3159213-7-sdf@google.com/


> > +
> > +     *hash = skb_get_hash(_ctx->skb); > +    return 0;
> > +}
> > +
>
> --Jesper
>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-17 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-12  0:32 [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 00/17] xdp: hints via kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 01/17] bpf: Document XDP RX metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-16 13:09   ` [xdp-hints] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-01-17 20:33     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-18 14:28       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-01-18 17:55         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 02/17] bpf: Rename bpf_{prog,map}_is_dev_bound to is_offloaded Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 03/17] bpf: Move offload initialization into late_initcall Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 04/17] bpf: Reshuffle some parts of bpf/offload.c Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 05/17] bpf: Introduce device-bound XDP programs Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 06/17] selftests/bpf: Update expected test_offload.py messages Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 07/17] bpf: XDP metadata RX kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 09/17] veth: Introduce veth_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 10/17] veth: Support RX XDP metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-16 16:21   ` [xdp-hints] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-01-17 20:33     ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2023-01-18 15:57       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 11/17] selftests/bpf: Verify xdp_metadata xdp->af_xdp path Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 12/17] net/mlx4_en: Introduce wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 13/17] net/mlx4_en: Support RX XDP metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 14/17] xsk: Add cb area to struct xdp_buff_xsk Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 15/17] net/mlx5e: Introduce wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  8:07   ` [xdp-hints] " Tariq Toukan
2023-01-12 19:10     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12 21:09       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-01-12 21:55         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-01-12 22:18           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12 22:29             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-01-13 20:55               ` Tariq Toukan
2023-01-13 20:53           ` Tariq Toukan
2023-01-13 21:31             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-01-15  6:59               ` Tariq Toukan
2023-01-15 11:13                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 16/17] net/mlx5e: Support RX XDP metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  8:13   ` [xdp-hints] " Tariq Toukan
2023-01-12 19:09     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-13 20:25       ` Tariq Toukan
2023-01-12  0:32 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v7 17/17] selftests/bpf: Simple program to dump XDP RX metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12  7:29 ` [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH bpf-next v7 00/17] xdp: hints via kfuncs Martin KaFai Lau
2023-01-12  8:19   ` Tariq Toukan
2023-01-12 18:09     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-01-12 18:20       ` Martin KaFai Lau

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