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From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	andrii@kernel.org, martin.lau@linux.dev, song@kernel.org,
	yhs@fb.com, john.fastabend@gmail.com, kpsingh@kernel.org,
	haoluo@google.com, jolsa@kernel.org,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com>,
	Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@redhat.com>,
	xdp-hints@xdp-project.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 03/12] bpf: XDP metadata RX kfuncs
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 18:57:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKH8qBsK1J5HeSgPN_sYzQRY2jZOO=-E+zyKsn4xJ22zv5HRFg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgbxjv7a.fsf@toke.dk>

On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 4:07 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com> writes:
>
> >> Another UX thing I ran into is that libbpf will bail out if it can't
> >> find the kfunc in the kernel vmlinux, even if the code calling the
> >> function is behind an always-false if statement (which would be
> >> eliminated as dead code from the verifier). This makes it a bit hard to
> >> conditionally use them. Should libbpf just allow the load without
> >> performing the relocation (and let the verifier worry about it), or
> >> should we have a bpf_core_kfunc_exists() macro to use for checking?
> >> Maybe both?
> >
> > I'm not sure how libbpf can allow the load without performing the
> > relocation; maybe I'm missing something.
> > IIUC, libbpf uses the kfunc name (from the relocation?) and replaces
> > it with the kfunc id, right?
>
> Yeah, so if it can't find the kfunc in vmlinux, just write an id of 0.
> This will trip the check at the top of fixup_kfunc_call() in the
> verifier, but if the code is hidden behind an always-false branch (an
> rodata variable set to zero, say) the instructions should get eliminated
> before they reach that point. That way you can at least turn it off at
> runtime (after having done some kind of feature detection) without
> having to compile it out of your program entirely.
>
> > Having bpf_core_kfunc_exists would help, but this probably needs
> > compiler work first to preserve some of the kfunc traces in vmlinux.h?
>
> I am not sure how the existing macros work, TBH. Hopefully someone else
> can chime in :)

+1

I think we need to poke Andrii as a follow up :-)

> -Toke
>

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-09  2:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-06  2:45 [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 00/12] xdp: hints via kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 01/12] bpf: Document XDP RX metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  4:25   ` [xdp-hints] " Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-08 19:06     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 02/12] bpf: Rename bpf_{prog,map}_is_dev_bound to is_offloaded Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  4:26   ` [xdp-hints] " Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 03/12] bpf: XDP metadata RX kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-07  4:29   ` [xdp-hints] " Alexei Starovoitov
2022-12-07  4:52     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-07  7:23       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-12-07 18:05         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  2:47   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-12-08 19:07     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08 22:53       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-12-08 23:45         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  5:00   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-08 19:07     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09  1:30       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09  2:57         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08 22:39   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-08 23:46     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09  0:07       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09  2:57         ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2022-12-10  0:42           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-12-10  1:12             ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-12-09 11:10   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-12-09 17:47     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-11 11:09       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 04/12] veth: Introduce veth_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 05/12] veth: Support RX XDP metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 06/12] selftests/bpf: Verify xdp_metadata xdp->af_xdp path Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 07/12] mlx4: Introduce mlx4_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  6:11   ` [xdp-hints] " Tariq Toukan
2022-12-08 19:07     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 08/12] mxl4: Support RX XDP metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08  6:09   ` [xdp-hints] " Tariq Toukan
2022-12-08 19:07     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08 20:23       ` Tariq Toukan
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 09/12] xsk: Add cb area to struct xdp_buff_xsk Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 10/12] mlx5: Introduce mlx5_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 11/12] mlx5: Support RX XDP metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08 22:59   ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-08 23:45     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09  0:02       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09  0:07         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-12-09  0:29           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09  0:32             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-12-09  0:53               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09  2:57                 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09  5:24                   ` Saeed Mahameed
2022-12-09 12:59                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-12-09 14:37                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09 15:19                       ` Dave Taht
2022-12-09 14:42                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-09 16:45                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09 17:46                       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09 22:13                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-06  2:45 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 12/12] selftests/bpf: Simple program to dump XDP RX metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-08 22:28 ` [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 00/12] xdp: hints via kfuncs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-12-08 23:47   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-09  0:14     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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