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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Larysa Zaremba <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com>,
	Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@redhat.com>,
	xdp-hints@xdp-project.net,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Simon Horman <simon.horman@corigine.com>
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 12/21] xdp: Add checksum hint
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023 11:04:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQ+vn0=1UT5_c628ovq+LzfrNFf0MxmZn++NqeUFJ-ykQw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64c53b1b29a66_e235c2942d@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch>

On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 9:15 AM Willem de Bruijn
<willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 07:39:14PM +0200, Larysa Zaremba wrote:
> > >
> > > +union xdp_csum_info {
> > > +   /* Checksum referred to by ``csum_start + csum_offset`` is considered
> > > +    * valid, but was never calculated, TX device has to do this,
> > > +    * starting from csum_start packet byte.
> > > +    * Any preceding checksums are also considered valid.
> > > +    * Available, if ``status == XDP_CHECKSUM_PARTIAL``.
> > > +    */
> > > +   struct {
> > > +           u16 csum_start;
> > > +           u16 csum_offset;
> > > +   };
> > > +
> >
> > CHECKSUM_PARTIAL makes sense on TX, but this RX. I don't see in the above.
>
> It can be observed on RX when packets are looped.
>
> This may be observed even in XDP on veth.

veth and XDP is a broken combination. GSO packets coming out of containers
cannot be parsed properly by XDP.
It was added mainly for testing. Just like "generic XDP".
bpf progs at skb layer is much better fit for veth.

> > > +   /* Checksum, calculated over the whole packet.
> > > +    * Available, if ``status & XDP_CHECKSUM_COMPLETE``.
> > > +    */
> > > +   u32 checksum;
> >
> > imo XDP RX should only support XDP_CHECKSUM_COMPLETE with u32 checksum
> > or XDP_CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY.
> >
> > > +};
> > > +
> > > +enum xdp_csum_status {
> > > +   /* HW had parsed several transport headers and validated their
> > > +    * checksums, same as ``CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY`` in ``sk_buff``.
> > > +    * 3 least significant bytes contain number of consecutive checksums,
> > > +    * starting with the outermost, reported by hardware as valid.
> > > +    * ``sk_buff`` checksum level (``csum_level``) notation is provided
> > > +    * for driver developers.
> > > +    */
> > > +   XDP_CHECKSUM_VALID_LVL0         = 1,    /* 1 outermost checksum */
> > > +   XDP_CHECKSUM_VALID_LVL1         = 2,    /* 2 outermost checksums */
> > > +   XDP_CHECKSUM_VALID_LVL2         = 3,    /* 3 outermost checksums */
> > > +   XDP_CHECKSUM_VALID_LVL3         = 4,    /* 4 outermost checksums */
> > > +   XDP_CHECKSUM_VALID_NUM_MASK     = GENMASK(2, 0),
> > > +   XDP_CHECKSUM_VALID              = XDP_CHECKSUM_VALID_NUM_MASK,
> >
> > I don't see what bpf prog suppose to do with these levels.
> > The driver should pick between 3:
> > XDP_CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY, XDP_CHECKSUM_COMPLETE, XDP_CHECKSUM_NONE.
> >
> > No levels and no anything partial. please.
>
> This levels business is an unfortunate side effect of
> CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY. For a packet with multiple checksum fields, what
> does the boolean actually mean? With these levels, at least that is
> well defined: the first N checksum fields.

If I understand this correctly this is intel specific feature that
other NICs don't have. skb layer also doesn't have such concept.
The driver should say CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY when it's sure
or don't pretend that it checks the checksum and just say NONE.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-29 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-28 15:44 [xdp-hints] (no subject) Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 01/21] ice: make RX hash reading code more reusable Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 02/21] ice: make RX HW timestamp " Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 03/21] ice: make RX checksum checking " Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 04/21] ice: Make ptype internal to descriptor info processing Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 05/21] ice: Introduce ice_xdp_buff Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 06/21] ice: Support HW timestamp hint Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 07/21] ice: Support RX hash XDP hint Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 08/21] ice: Support XDP hints in AF_XDP ZC mode Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 09/21] xdp: Add VLAN tag hint Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 10/21] ice: Implement " Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 11/21] ice: use VLAN proto from ring packet context in skb path Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 12/21] xdp: Add checksum hint Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 21:53   ` [xdp-hints] " Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-29 16:15     ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-07-29 18:04       ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2023-07-30 13:13         ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-07-31 10:52           ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-08-01  1:03             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-08-02 13:27               ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-08-07 15:03                 ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-08-07 15:32               ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-08-07 17:06                 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-07-31 16:43           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-07 15:08             ` Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 13/21] ice: Implement " Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 21:02   ` [xdp-hints] " kernel test robot
2023-07-28 21:02   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 14/21] selftests/bpf: Allow VLAN packets in xdp_hw_metadata Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 15/21] net, xdp: allow metadata > 32 Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 16/21] selftests/bpf: Add flags and new hints to xdp_hw_metadata Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 17/21] veth: Implement VLAN tag and checksum XDP hint Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-29 22:13   ` [xdp-hints] " kernel test robot
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 18/21] net: make vlan_get_tag() return -ENODATA instead of -EINVAL Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 19/21] selftests/bpf: Use AF_INET for TX in xdp_metadata Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 20/21] selftests/bpf: Check VLAN tag and proto " Larysa Zaremba
2023-07-28 17:39 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v4 21/21] selftests/bpf: check checksum state " Larysa Zaremba

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