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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>
Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>,
	ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
	song@kernel.org, yhs@fb.com, john.fastabend@gmail.com,
	kpsingh@kernel.org, haoluo@google.com, jolsa@kernel.org,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com>,
	Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@redhat.com>,
	xdp-hints@xdp-project.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [RFC bpf-next v2 06/14] xdp: Carry over xdp metadata into skb context
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 10:44:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iljl7rl1.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed37045f-eb3d-8db0-4e5d-12bf7da8587e@linux.dev>

Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev> writes:

> On 11/10/22 3:29 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>>>> For the metadata consumed by the stack right now it's a bit
>>>> hypothetical, yeah. However, there's a bunch of metadata commonly
>>>> supported by hardware that the stack currently doesn't consume and that
>>>> hopefully this feature will end up making more accessible. My hope is
>>>> that the stack can also learn how to use this in the future, in which
>>>> case we may run out of space. So I think of that bit mostly as
>>>> future-proofing...
>>>
>>> ic. in this case, Can the btf_id be added to 'struct xdp_to_skb_metadata' later
>>> if it is indeed needed?  The 'struct xdp_to_skb_metadata' is not in UAPI and
>>> doing it with CO-RE is to give us flexibility to make this kind of changes in
>>> the future.
>> 
>> My worry is mostly that it'll be more painful to add it later than just
>> including it from the start, mostly because of AF_XDP users. But if we
>> do the randomisation thing (thus forcing AF_XDP users to deal with the
>> dynamic layout as well), it should be possible to add it later, and I
>> can live with that option as well...
>
> imo, considering we are trying to optimize unnecessary field
> initialization as below, it is sort of wasteful to always initialize
> the btf_id with the same value. It is better to add it in the future
> when there is a need.

Okay, let's omit the BTF ID for now, and see what that looks like. I'll
try to keep in mind to see if I can find any reasons why we'd need to
add it back and make sure to complain before this lands if I find any :)

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-11  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-04  3:25 [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 00/14] xdp: hints via kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 01/14] bpf: Introduce bpf_patch Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 02/14] bpf: Support inlined/unrolled kfuncs for xdp metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 03/14] veth: Introduce veth_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 04/14] veth: Support rx timestamp metadata for xdp Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-09 11:21   ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-09 21:34     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10  0:25   ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10  1:02     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10  1:35       ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10  6:44         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 17:39           ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10 18:52             ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-11 10:41             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 05/14] selftests/bpf: Verify xdp_metadata xdp->af_xdp path Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 06/14] xdp: Carry over xdp metadata into skb context Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-07 22:01   ` [xdp-hints] " Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-08 21:54     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-09  3:07       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-09  4:19         ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-09 11:10           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-09 18:22             ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-09 21:33               ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10  0:13                 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-10  1:02                   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 14:26                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 18:52                       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 23:14                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 23:52                           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-11  0:10                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-11  0:45                               ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-11  9:37                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-11  0:33                             ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-11  0:57                               ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-11  1:26                                 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-11  9:41                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 23:58                         ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-11  0:20                           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 14:19               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 19:04                 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-10 23:29                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-11  1:39                     ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-11  9:44                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2022-11-10  1:26             ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10 14:32               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 17:30                 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10 22:49                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10  1:09   ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10  6:44     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 21:21       ` David Ahern
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 07/14] selftests/bpf: Verify xdp_metadata xdp->skb path Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 08/14] bpf: Helper to simplify calling kernel routines from unrolled kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-05  0:40   ` [xdp-hints] " Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-05  2:18     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 09/14] ice: Introduce ice_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 10/14] ice: Support rx timestamp metadata for xdp Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 14:35   ` [xdp-hints] " Alexander Lobakin
2022-11-04 18:21     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-07 17:11       ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-11-07 19:10         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-15 11:54   ` Larysa Zaremba
2022-12-15 14:29     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 11/14] mlx4: Introduce mlx4_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 12/14] mxl4: Support rx timestamp metadata for xdp Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 13/14] bnxt: Introduce bnxt_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04  3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 14/14] bnxt: Support rx timestamp metadata for xdp Stanislav Fomichev

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