From: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
Cc: ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
song@kernel.org, yhs@fb.com, john.fastabend@gmail.com,
kpsingh@kernel.org, haoluo@google.com, jolsa@kernel.org,
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com>,
Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@redhat.com>,
xdp-hints@xdp-project.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [RFC bpf-next v2 06/14] xdp: Carry over xdp metadata into skb context
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 20:19:13 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f57370f-7ec3-07dd-54df-04423cab6d1f@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a8fefe4-2fcb-95b7-cda0-06509feee78e@linux.dev>
On 11/8/22 7:07 PM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
> On 11/8/22 1:54 PM, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 2:02 PM Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/3/22 8:25 PM, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/skbuff.h b/include/linux/skbuff.h
>>>> index 59c9fd55699d..dba857f212d7 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/skbuff.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/skbuff.h
>>>> @@ -4217,9 +4217,13 @@ static inline bool skb_metadata_differs(const struct
>>>> sk_buff *skb_a,
>>>> true : __skb_metadata_differs(skb_a, skb_b, len_a);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> +void skb_metadata_import_from_xdp(struct sk_buff *skb, size_t len);
>>>> +
>>>> static inline void skb_metadata_set(struct sk_buff *skb, u8 meta_len)
>>>> {
>>>> skb_shinfo(skb)->meta_len = meta_len;
>>>> + if (meta_len)
>>>> + skb_metadata_import_from_xdp(skb, meta_len);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>> [ ... ]
>>>
>>>> +struct xdp_to_skb_metadata {
>>>> + u32 magic; /* xdp_metadata_magic */
>>>> + u64 rx_timestamp;
>>>> +} __randomize_layout;
>>>> +
>>>> +struct bpf_patch;
>>>> +
>>>
>>> [ ... ]
>>>
>>>> +void skb_metadata_import_from_xdp(struct sk_buff *skb, size_t len)
>>>> +{
>>>> + struct xdp_to_skb_metadata *meta = (void *)(skb_mac_header(skb) - len);
>>>> +
>>>> + /* Optional SKB info, currently missing:
>>>> + * - HW checksum info (skb->ip_summed)
>>>> + * - HW RX hash (skb_set_hash)
>>>> + * - RX ring dev queue index (skb_record_rx_queue)
>>>> + */
>>>> +
>>>> + if (len != sizeof(struct xdp_to_skb_metadata))
>>>> + return;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (meta->magic != xdp_metadata_magic)
>>>> + return;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (meta->rx_timestamp) {
>>>> + *skb_hwtstamps(skb) = (struct skb_shared_hwtstamps){
>>>> + .hwtstamp = ns_to_ktime(meta->rx_timestamp),
>>>> + };
>>>> + }
>>>> +}
>>>
>>> Considering the metadata will affect the gro, should the meta be cleared after
>>> importing to the skb?
>>
>> Yeah, good suggestion, will clear it here.
>>
>>> [ ... ]
>>>
>>>> +/* Since we're not actually doing a call but instead rewriting
>>>> + * in place, we can only afford to use R0-R5 scratch registers.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * We reserve R1 for bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb and let individual
>>>> + * metadata kfuncs use only R0,R4-R5.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * The above also means we _cannot_ easily call any other helper/kfunc
>>>> + * because there is no place for us to preserve our R1 argument;
>>>> + * existing R6-R9 belong to the callee.
>>>> + */
>>>> +void xdp_metadata_export_to_skb(const struct bpf_prog *prog, struct
>>>> bpf_patch *patch)
>>>> +{
>>>> + u32 func_id;
>>>> +
>>>> + /*
>>>> + * The code below generates the following:
>>>> + *
>>>> + * void bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb(struct xdp_md *ctx)
>>>> + * {
>>>> + * struct xdp_to_skb_metadata *meta;
>>>> + * int ret;
>>>> + *
>>>> + * ret = bpf_xdp_adjust_meta(ctx, -sizeof(*meta));
>>>> + * if (!ret)
>>>> + * return;
>>>> + *
>>>> + * meta = ctx->data_meta;
>>>> + * meta->magic = xdp_metadata_magic;
>>>> + * meta->rx_timestamp = bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_timestamp(ctx);
>>>> + * }
>>>> + *
>>>> + */
>>>> +
>>>> + bpf_patch_append(patch,
>>>> + /* r2 = ((struct xdp_buff *)r1)->data_meta; */
>>>> + BPF_LDX_MEM(BPF_DW, BPF_REG_2, BPF_REG_1,
>>>> + offsetof(struct xdp_buff, data_meta)),
>>>> + /* r3 = ((struct xdp_buff *)r1)->data; */
>>>> + BPF_LDX_MEM(BPF_DW, BPF_REG_3, BPF_REG_1,
>>>> + offsetof(struct xdp_buff, data)),
>>>> + /* if (data_meta != data) return;
>>>> + *
>>>> + * data_meta > data: xdp_data_meta_unsupported()
>>>> + * data_meta < data: already used, no need to touch
>>>> + */
>>>> + BPF_JMP_REG(BPF_JNE, BPF_REG_2, BPF_REG_3, S16_MAX),
>>>> +
>>>> + /* r2 -= sizeof(struct xdp_to_skb_metadata); */
>>>> + BPF_ALU64_IMM(BPF_SUB, BPF_REG_2,
>>>> + sizeof(struct xdp_to_skb_metadata)),
>>>> + /* r3 = ((struct xdp_buff *)r1)->data_hard_start; */
>>>> + BPF_LDX_MEM(BPF_DW, BPF_REG_3, BPF_REG_1,
>>>> + offsetof(struct xdp_buff, data_hard_start)),
>>>> + /* r3 += sizeof(struct xdp_frame) */
>>>> + BPF_ALU64_IMM(BPF_ADD, BPF_REG_3,
>>>> + sizeof(struct xdp_frame)),
>>>> + /* if (data-sizeof(struct xdp_to_skb_metadata) <
>>>> data_hard_start+sizeof(struct xdp_frame)) return; */
>>>> + BPF_JMP_REG(BPF_JLT, BPF_REG_2, BPF_REG_3, S16_MAX),
>>>> +
>>>> + /* ((struct xdp_buff *)r1)->data_meta = r2; */
>>>> + BPF_STX_MEM(BPF_DW, BPF_REG_1, BPF_REG_2,
>>>> + offsetof(struct xdp_buff, data_meta)),
>>>> +
>>>> + /* *((struct xdp_to_skb_metadata *)r2)->magic =
>>>> xdp_metadata_magic; */
>>>> + BPF_ST_MEM(BPF_W, BPF_REG_2,
>>>> + offsetof(struct xdp_to_skb_metadata, magic),
>>>> + xdp_metadata_magic),
>>>> + );
>>>> +
>>>> + /* r0 = bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_timestamp(ctx); */
>>>> + func_id = xdp_metadata_kfunc_id(XDP_METADATA_KFUNC_RX_TIMESTAMP);
>>>> + prog->aux->xdp_kfunc_ndo->ndo_unroll_kfunc(prog, func_id, patch);
>>>> +
>>>> + bpf_patch_append(patch,
>>>> + /* r2 = ((struct xdp_buff *)r1)->data_meta; */
>>>> + BPF_LDX_MEM(BPF_DW, BPF_REG_2, BPF_REG_1,
>>>> + offsetof(struct xdp_buff, data_meta)),
>>>> + /* *((struct xdp_to_skb_metadata *)r2)->rx_timestamp = r0; */
>>>> + BPF_STX_MEM(BPF_DW, BPF_REG_2, BPF_REG_0,
>>>> + offsetof(struct xdp_to_skb_metadata, rx_timestamp)),
>>>
>>> Can the xdp prog still change the metadata through xdp->data_meta? tbh, I am not
>>> sure it is solid enough by asking the xdp prog not to use the same random number
>>> in its own metadata + not to change the metadata through xdp->data_meta after
>>> calling bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb().
>>
>> What do you think the usecase here might be? Or are you suggesting we
>> reject further access to data_meta after
>> bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb somehow?
>>
>> If we want to let the programs override some of this
>> bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb() metadata, it feels like we can add
>> more kfuncs instead of exposing the layout?
>>
>> bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb(ctx);
>> bpf_xdp_metadata_export_skb_hash(ctx, 1234);
After re-reading patch 6, have another question. The 'void
bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb();' function signature. Should it at least
return ok/err? or even return a 'struct xdp_to_skb_metadata *' pointer and the
xdp prog can directly read (or even write) it? A related question, why 'struct
xdp_to_skb_metadata' needs __randomize_layout?
>
>
> I can't think of a use case now for the xdp prog to use the xdp_to_skb_metadata
> while the xdp prog can directly call the kfunc (eg
> bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_timestamp) to get individual hint. I was asking if patch 7
> is an actual use case because it does test the tstamp in XDP_PASS or it is
> mostly for selftest purpose? Yeah, may be the xdp prog will be able to change
> the xdp_to_skb_metadata eventually but that is for later.
>
> My concern is the xdp prog is allowed to change xdp_to_skb_metadata or
> by-coincident writing metadata that matches the random and the sizeof(struct
> xdp_to_skb_metadata).
>
> Also, the added opacity of xdp_to_skb_metadata (__randomize_layout + random int)
> is trying very hard to hide it from xdp prog. Instead, would it be cleaner to
> have a flag in xdp->flags (to be set by bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb?) to
> guard this, like one of Jesper's patch. The xdp_convert_ctx_access() and
> bpf_xdp_adjust_meta() can check this bit to ensure the xdp_to_skb_metadata
> cannot be read and no metadata can be added/deleted after that. btw, is it
> possible to keep both xdp_to_skb_metadata and the xdp_prog's metadata? After
> skb_metadata_import_from_xdp popping the xdp_to_skb_metadata, the remaining
> xdp_prog's metatdata can still be used by the bpf-tc.
>
>> ...
>>
>>> Does xdp_to_skb_metadata have a use case for XDP_PASS (like patch 7) or the
>>> xdp_to_skb_metadata can be limited to XDP_REDIRECT only?
>>
>> XDP_PASS cases where we convert xdp_buff into skb in the drivers right
>> now usually have C code to manually pull out the metadata (out of hw
>> desc) and put it into skb.
>>
>> So, currently, if we're calling bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb() for
>> XDP_PASS, we're doing a double amount of work:
>> skb_metadata_import_from_xdp first, then custom driver code second.
>>
>> In theory, maybe we should completely skip drivers custom parsing when
>> there is a prog with BPF_F_XDP_HAS_METADATA?
>> Then both xdp->skb paths (XDP_PASS+XDP_REDIRECT) will be bpf-driven
>> and won't require any mental work (plus, the drivers won't have to
>> care either in the future).
>> > WDYT?
>
>
> Yeah, not sure if it can solely depend on BPF_F_XDP_HAS_METADATA but it makes
> sense to only use the hints (if ever written) from xdp prog especially if it
> will eventually support xdp prog changing some of the hints in the future. For
> now, I think either way is fine since they are the same and the xdp prog is sort
> of doing extra unnecessary work anyway by calling
> bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb() with XDP_PASS and knowing nothing can be
> changed now.
>
>
>>
>>>> + );
>>>> +
>>>> + bpf_patch_resolve_jmp(patch);
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> static int __init xdp_metadata_init(void)
>>>> {
>>>> + xdp_metadata_magic = get_random_u32() | 1;
>>>> return register_btf_kfunc_id_set(BPF_PROG_TYPE_XDP,
>>>> &xdp_metadata_kfunc_set);
>>>> }
>>>> late_initcall(xdp_metadata_init);
>
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-04 3:25 [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 00/14] xdp: hints via kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
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2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 02/14] bpf: Support inlined/unrolled kfuncs for xdp metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 03/14] veth: Introduce veth_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 04/14] veth: Support rx timestamp metadata for xdp Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-09 11:21 ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-09 21:34 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 0:25 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10 1:02 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 1:35 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10 6:44 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 17:39 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10 18:52 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-11 10:41 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 05/14] selftests/bpf: Verify xdp_metadata xdp->af_xdp path Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 06/14] xdp: Carry over xdp metadata into skb context Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-07 22:01 ` [xdp-hints] " Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-08 21:54 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-09 3:07 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-09 4:19 ` Martin KaFai Lau [this message]
2022-11-09 11:10 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-09 18:22 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-09 21:33 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 0:13 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-10 1:02 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 14:26 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 18:52 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 23:14 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 23:52 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-11 0:10 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-11 0:45 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-11 9:37 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-11 0:33 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-11 0:57 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-11 1:26 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-11 9:41 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 23:58 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-11 0:20 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 14:19 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 19:04 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-10 23:29 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-11 1:39 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-11 9:44 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 1:26 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10 14:32 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 17:30 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10 22:49 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-10 1:09 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-10 6:44 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-10 21:21 ` David Ahern
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 07/14] selftests/bpf: Verify xdp_metadata xdp->skb path Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 08/14] bpf: Helper to simplify calling kernel routines from unrolled kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-05 0:40 ` [xdp-hints] " Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-05 2:18 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 09/14] ice: Introduce ice_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 10/14] ice: Support rx timestamp metadata for xdp Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 14:35 ` [xdp-hints] " Alexander Lobakin
2022-11-04 18:21 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-07 17:11 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-11-07 19:10 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-12-15 11:54 ` Larysa Zaremba
2022-12-15 14:29 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 11/14] mlx4: Introduce mlx4_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 12/14] mxl4: Support rx timestamp metadata for xdp Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 13/14] bnxt: Introduce bnxt_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-04 3:25 ` [xdp-hints] [RFC bpf-next v2 14/14] bnxt: Support rx timestamp metadata for xdp Stanislav Fomichev
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