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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Song Yoong Siang <yoong.siang.song@intel.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Bjorn Topel <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Mykola Lysenko <mykolal@fb.com>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	Jose Abreu <joabreu@synopsys.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	xdp-hints@xdp-project.net,
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	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 2/3] net: stmmac: add Launch Time support to XDP ZC
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2023 09:54:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <656de830e8d70_2e983e294ca@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43b01013-e78b-417e-b169-91909c7309b1@kernel.org>

Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/3/23 17:51, Song Yoong Siang wrote:
> > This patch enables Launch Time (Time-Based Scheduling) support to XDP zero
> > copy via XDP Tx metadata framework.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Song Yoong Siang<yoong.siang.song@intel.com>
> > ---
> >   drivers/net/ethernet/stmicro/stmmac/stmmac.h      |  2 ++
> 
> As requested before, I think we need to see another driver implementing 
> this.
> 
> I propose driver igc and chip i225.
> 
> The interesting thing for me is to see how the LaunchTime max 1 second
> into the future[1] is handled code wise. One suggestion is to add a 
> section to Documentation/networking/xsk-tx-metadata.rst per driver that 
> mentions/documents these different hardware limitations.  It is natural 
> that different types of hardware have limitations.  This is a close-to 
> hardware-level abstraction/API, and IMHO as long as we document the 
> limitations we can expose this API without too many limitations for more 
> capable hardware.

I would assume that the kfunc will fail when a value is passed that
cannot be programmed.

What is being implemented here already exists for qdiscs. The FQ
qdisc takes a horizon attribute and

    "
    when a packet is beyond the horizon
        at enqueue() time:
        - either drop the packet (default policy)
        - or cap its delivery time to the horizon.
    "
    commit 39d010504e6b ("net_sched: sch_fq: add horizon attribute")

Having the admin manually configure this on the qdisc based on
off-line knowledge of the device is more fragile than if the device
would somehow signal its limit to the stack.

But I don't think we should add enforcement of that as a requirement
for this xdp extension of pacing.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-04 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-03 16:51 [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 0/3] xsk: TX metadata Launch Time support Song Yoong Siang
2023-12-03 16:51 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 1/3] xsk: add Launch Time HW offload to XDP Tx metadata Song Yoong Siang
2023-12-03 16:51 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 2/3] net: stmmac: add Launch Time support to XDP ZC Song Yoong Siang
2023-12-04 10:36   ` [xdp-hints] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-12-04 11:54     ` Florian Bezdeka
2023-12-04 14:54     ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2023-12-05 15:25       ` Song, Yoong Siang
2023-12-05 15:34         ` Florian Bezdeka
2023-12-05 17:13           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-12-05 18:03             ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-12-05 19:39               ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-12-05 20:01                 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-12-06 10:06                 ` Magnus Karlsson
2023-12-06 19:06                   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-12-18  2:54                     ` Song, Yoong Siang
2023-12-03 16:51 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next v3 3/3] selftests/bpf: add Launch Time request to xdp_hw_metadata Song Yoong Siang
2023-12-04 10:16   ` [xdp-hints] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-12-04 14:59     ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-12-05 14:55       ` Song, Yoong Siang

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