From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
"Alexander Lobakin" <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
"Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com>,
"Daniel Xu" <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>
Cc: "Alexander Lobakin" <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
"Larysa Zaremba" <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>,
"Michal Swiatkowski" <michal.swiatkowski@linux.intel.com>,
"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
"Magnus Karlsson" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
"Maciej Fijalkowski" <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
"Jonathan Lemon" <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
"Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
"Yajun Deng" <yajun.deng@linux.dev>,
"Willem de Bruijn" <willemb@google.com>,
"bpf@vger.kernel.org" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
xdp-hints@xdp-project.net
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 32/52] bpf, cpumap: switch to GRO from netif_receive_skb_list()
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 17:57:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <34cc17a1-dee2-4eb0-9b24-7b264cb63521@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874j7oean6.fsf@toke.dk>
On 13/08/2024 16.54, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com> writes:
>
>> From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
>> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 13:57:00 +0200
>>
>>> From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 06:54:06 +0200
>>>
>>>>> Hi Alexander,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>>>>>> cpumap has its own BH context based on kthread. It has a sane batch
>>>>>> size of 8 frames per one cycle.
>>>>>> GRO can be used on its own, adjust cpumap calls to the
>>>>>> upper stack to use GRO API instead of netif_receive_skb_list() which
>>>>>> processes skbs by batches, but doesn't involve GRO layer at all.
>>>>>> It is most beneficial when a NIC which frame come from is XDP
>>>>>> generic metadata-enabled, but in plenty of tests GRO performs better
>>>>>> than listed receiving even given that it has to calculate full frame
>>>>>> checksums on CPU.
>>>>>> As GRO passes the skbs to the upper stack in the batches of
>>>>>> @gro_normal_batch, i.e. 8 by default, and @skb->dev point to the
>>>>>> device where the frame comes from, it is enough to disable GRO
>>>>>> netdev feature on it to completely restore the original behaviour:
>>>>>> untouched frames will be being bulked and passed to the upper stack
>>>>>> by 8, as it was with netif_receive_skb_list().
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> kernel/bpf/cpumap.c | 43 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>>>>>> 1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AFAICT the cpumap + GRO is a good standalone improvement. I think
>>>>> cpumap is still missing this.
>>>
>>> The only concern for having GRO in cpumap without metadata from the NIC
>>> descriptor was that when the checksum status is missing, GRO calculates
>>> the checksum on CPU, which is not really fast.
>>> But I remember sometimes GRO was faster despite that.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a production use case for this now. We want to do some intelligent
>>>>> RX steering and I think GRO would help over list-ified receive in some cases.
>>>>> We would prefer steer in HW (and thus get existing GRO support) but not all
>>>>> our NICs support it. So we need a software fallback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you still interested in merging the cpumap + GRO patches?
>>>
>>> For sure I can revive this part. I was planning to get back to this
>>> branch and pick patches which were not related to XDP hints and send
>>> them separately.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Daniel and Alex,
>>>>
>>>> Recently I worked on a PoC to add GRO support to cpumap codebase:
>>>> - https://github.com/LorenzoBianconi/bpf-next/commit/a4b8264d5000ecf016da5a2dd9ac302deaf38b3e
>>>> Here I added GRO support to cpumap through gro-cells.
>>>> - https://github.com/LorenzoBianconi/bpf-next/commit/da6cb32a4674aa72401c7414c9a8a0775ef41a55
>>>> Here I added GRO support to cpumap trough napi-threaded APIs (with a some
>>>> changes to them).
>>>
>>> Hmm, when I was testing it, adding a whole NAPI to cpumap was sorta
>>> overkill, that's why I separated GRO structure from &napi_struct.
>>>
>>> Let me maybe find some free time, I would then test all 3 solutions
>>> (mine, gro_cells, threaded NAPI) and pick/send the best?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please note I have not run any performance tests so far, just verified it does
>>>> not crash (I was planning to resume this work soon). Please let me know if it
>>>> works for you.
>>
>> I did tests on both threaded NAPI for cpumap and my old implementation
>> with a traffic generator and I have the following (in Kpps):
>>
What kind of traffic is the traffic generator sending?
E.g. is this a type of traffic that gets GRO aggregated?
>> direct Rx direct GRO cpumap cpumap GRO
>> baseline 2900 5800 2700 2700 (N/A)
>> threaded 2300 4000
>> old GRO 2300 4000
>>
Nice results. Just to confirm, the units are in Kpps.
>> IOW,
>>
>> 1. There are no differences in perf between Lorenzo's threaded NAPI
>> GRO implementation and my old implementation, but Lorenzo's is also
>> a very nice cleanup as it switches cpumap to threaded NAPI completely
>> and the final diffstat even removes more lines than adds, while mine
>> adds a bunch of lines and refactors a couple hundred, so I'd go with
>> his variant.
>>
>> 2. After switching to NAPI, the performance without GRO decreases (2.3
>> Mpps vs 2.7 Mpps), but after enabling GRO the perf increases hugely
>> (4 Mpps vs 2.7 Mpps) even though the CPU needs to compute checksums
>> manually.
>
> One question for this: IIUC, the benefit of GRO varies with the traffic
> mix, depending on how much the GRO logic can actually aggregate. So did
> you test the pathological case as well (spraying packets over so many
> flows that there is basically no aggregation taking place)? Just to make
> sure we don't accidentally screw up performance in that case while
> optimising for the aggregating case :)
>
For the GRO use-case, I think a basic TCP stream throughput test (like
netperf) should show a benefit once cpumap enable GRO, Can you confirm this?
Or does the missing hardware RX-hash and RX-checksum cause TCP GRO not
to fully work, yet?
Thanks A LOT for doing this benchmarking!
--Jesper
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2022-06-28 19:47 [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 00/52] bpf, xdp: introduce and use Generic Hints/metadata Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 01/52] libbpf: factor out BTF loading from load_module_btfs() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 02/52] libbpf: try to load vmlinux BTF from the kernel first Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 03/52] libbpf: add function to get the pair BTF ID + type ID for a given type Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 04/52] libbpf: patch module BTF ID into BPF insns Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 05/52] net, xdp: decouple XDP code from the core networking code Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 06/52] bpf: pass a pointer to union bpf_attr to bpf_link_ops::update_prog() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 07/52] net, xdp: remove redundant arguments from dev_xdp_{at,de}tach_link() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 08/52] net, xdp: factor out XDP install arguments to a separate structure Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 09/52] net, xdp: add ability to specify BTF ID for XDP metadata Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 10/52] net, xdp: add ability to specify frame size threshold " Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 11/52] libbpf: factor out __bpf_set_link_xdp_fd_replace() args into a struct Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 12/52] libbpf: add ability to set the BTF/type ID on setting XDP prog Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 13/52] libbpf: add ability to set the meta threshold " Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 14/52] libbpf: pass &bpf_link_create_opts directly to bpf_program__attach_fd() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 15/52] libbpf: add bpf_program__attach_xdp_opts() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 16/52] selftests/bpf: expand xdp_link to check that setting meta opts works Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 17/52] samples/bpf: pass a struct to sample_install_xdp() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 18/52] samples/bpf: add ability to specify metadata threshold Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 19/52] stddef: make __struct_group() UAPI C++-friendly Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 20/52] net, xdp: move XDP metadata helpers into new xdp_meta.h Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 21/52] net, xdp: allow metadata > 32 Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 22/52] net, skbuff: add ability to skip skb metadata comparison Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 23/52] net, skbuff: constify the @skb argument of skb_hwtstamps() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 24/52] bpf, xdp: declare generic XDP metadata structure Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 25/52] net, xdp: add basic generic metadata accessors Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 26/52] bpf, btf: add a pair of function to work with the BTF ID + type ID pair Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 27/52] net, xdp: add &sk_buff <-> &xdp_meta_generic converters Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 28/52] net, xdp: prefetch data a bit when building an skb from an &xdp_frame Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 29/52] net, xdp: try to fill skb fields when converting " Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 30/52] net, gro: decouple GRO from the NAPI layer Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 31/52] net, gro: expose some GRO API to use outside of NAPI Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 32/52] bpf, cpumap: switch to GRO from netif_receive_skb_list() Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-07 20:38 ` [xdp-hints] " Daniel Xu
2024-08-08 4:54 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-08 11:57 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-08 17:22 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-08 20:52 ` Daniel Xu
2024-08-09 10:02 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-08-09 12:20 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-09 12:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-08-09 12:56 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-09 13:42 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-08-10 0:54 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-08-10 8:02 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-13 1:33 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 9:51 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-08-10 8:00 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-13 14:09 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-13 14:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-08-13 15:57 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2024-08-19 14:50 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-21 0:29 ` Daniel Xu
2024-08-21 13:16 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-21 16:36 ` Daniel Xu
2024-08-13 16:14 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-13 16:27 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2024-08-13 16:31 ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-08-08 20:44 ` Daniel Xu
2024-08-09 9:32 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 33/52] bpf, cpumap: add option to set a timeout for deferred flush Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 34/52] samples/bpf: add 'timeout' option to xdp_redirect_cpu Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 35/52] net, skbuff: introduce napi_skb_cache_get_bulk() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 36/52] bpf, cpumap: switch to napi_skb_cache_get_bulk() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 37/52] rcupdate: fix access helpers for incomplete struct pointers on GCC < 10 Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 38/52] net, xdp: remove unused xdp_attachment_info::flags Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:47 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 39/52] net, xdp: make &xdp_attachment_info a bit more useful in drivers Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 40/52] net, xdp: add an RCU version of xdp_attachment_setup() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 41/52] net, xdp: replace net_device::xdp_prog pointer with &xdp_attachment_info Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 42/52] net, xdp: shortcut skb->dev in bpf_prog_run_generic_xdp() Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 43/52] net, xdp: build XDP generic metadata on Generic (skb) XDP path Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 44/52] net, ice: allow XDP prog hot-swapping Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 45/52] net, ice: consolidate all skb fields processing Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 46/52] net, ice: use an onstack &xdp_meta_generic_rx to store HW frame info Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 47/52] net, ice: build XDP generic metadata Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 48/52] libbpf: compress Endianness ops with a macro Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 49/52] libbpf: add LE <--> CPU conversion helpers Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 50/52] libbpf: introduce a couple memory access helpers Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 51/52] selftests/bpf: fix using test_xdp_meta BPF prog via skeleton infra Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-28 19:48 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFC bpf-next 52/52] selftests/bpf: add XDP Generic Hints selftest Alexander Lobakin
2022-06-29 6:15 ` [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 00/52] bpf, xdp: introduce and use Generic Hints/metadata John Fastabend
2022-06-29 13:43 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-04 15:44 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-07-04 17:13 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-07-05 14:38 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-07-05 19:08 ` Daniel Borkmann
2022-07-04 17:14 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-05 15:41 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-07-05 18:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-06 13:50 ` Alexander Lobakin
2022-07-06 23:22 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-07-07 11:41 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-07-12 10:33 ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-07-12 14:14 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-07-15 11:11 ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-06-29 17:56 ` Zvi Effron
2022-06-30 7:39 ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-07-04 15:31 ` Alexander Lobakin
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