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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	andrii@kernel.org, martin.lau@linux.dev, song@kernel.org,
	yhs@fb.com, john.fastabend@gmail.com, kpsingh@kernel.org,
	haoluo@google.com, jolsa@kernel.org,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@gmail.com>,
	Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@redhat.com>,
	xdp-hints@xdp-project.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH bpf-next 06/11] xdp: Carry over xdp metadata into skb context
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:12:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221116131253.6703f1c6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221115030210.3159213-7-sdf@google.com>

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 19:02:05 -0800 Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> Implement new bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb kfunc which
> prepares compatible xdp metadata for kernel consumption.
> This kfunc should be called prior to bpf_redirect
> or when XDP_PASS'ing the frame into the kernel (note, the drivers
> have to be updated to enable consuming XDP_PASS'ed metadata).
> 
> veth driver is amended to consume this metadata when converting to skb.
> 
> Internally, XDP_FLAGS_HAS_SKB_METADATA flag is used to indicate
> whether the frame has skb metadata. The metadata is currently
> stored prior to xdp->data_meta. bpf_xdp_adjust_meta refuses
> to work after a call to bpf_xdp_metadata_export_to_skb (can lift
> this requirement later on if needed, we'd have to memmove
> xdp_skb_metadata).

IMO we should split the xdp -> skb work from the pure HW data access 
in XDP. We have a proof point here that there is a way of building 
on top of the first 5 patches to achieve the objective, and that's
sufficient to let the prior work going in.

..because some of us may not agree that we should be pushing in a
fixed-format structure that's also listed in uAPI. And prefer to,
say, let the user define their format and add a call point for a
BPF prog to populate the skb from whatever data they decided to stash...

That's how I interpreted some of John's comments as well, but I may be
wrong.

Either way, there is no technical reason for the xdp -> skb field
propagation to hold up the HW descriptor access, right? If anything 
we may be able to make quicker progress if prior work is in tree
and multiple people can hack...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-16 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-15  3:01 [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next 00/11] xdp: hints via kfuncs Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15  3:02 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next 02/11] bpf: Introduce bpf_patch Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15  3:02 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next 03/11] bpf: Support inlined/unrolled kfuncs for xdp metadata Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15 16:16   ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-15 18:37     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-16 20:42   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-16 20:53     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15  3:02 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next 05/11] veth: Support rx timestamp metadata for xdp Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15 16:17   ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-15 18:37     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15 22:46       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-16  4:09         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-16  6:38           ` John Fastabend
2022-11-16  7:47             ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-16 10:08               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-16 18:20                 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-16 19:03                 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-16 20:50                   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-16 23:47                     ` John Fastabend
2022-11-17  0:19                       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-17  2:17                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-17  2:53                           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-17  2:59                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-17  4:18                               ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-17  6:55                                 ` John Fastabend
2022-11-17 17:51                                   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-17 19:47                                     ` John Fastabend
2022-11-17 20:17                                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-17 11:32                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-17 16:59                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-17 17:52                                 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-17 23:46                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-18  0:02                                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-18  0:29                                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-17 10:27                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-15  3:02 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next 06/11] xdp: Carry over xdp metadata into skb context Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15 23:20   ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-16  3:49     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-16  9:30       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-16  4:40   ` kernel test robot
2022-11-16  7:04   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-16  9:48     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-16 20:51       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-16 20:51     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-16  8:22   ` kernel test robot
2022-11-16  9:03   ` kernel test robot
2022-11-16 13:46   ` kernel test robot
2022-11-16 21:12   ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2022-11-16 21:49     ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-11-18 14:05   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-11-18 18:18     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-19 12:31       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-21 17:53         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-21 18:47           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-21 19:41             ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15  3:02 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next 07/11] selftests/bpf: Verify xdp_metadata xdp->af_xdp path Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15  3:02 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next 08/11] selftests/bpf: Verify xdp_metadata xdp->skb path Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15  3:02 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next 09/11] mlx4: Introduce mlx4_xdp_buff wrapper for xdp_buff Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15  3:02 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH bpf-next 10/11] mxl4: Support rx timestamp metadata for xdp Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15 15:54 ` [xdp-hints] Re: [PATCH bpf-next 00/11] xdp: hints via kfuncs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-15 18:37   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-11-15 22:31     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-15 22:54     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-15 23:13       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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